Sunday, April 18, 2010

The Cyber Bully


(fm the BC thread "Out of the Box")

After two days I have not heard from Wretchard, which is most disappointing, a two day break from the BC feels like a vacation. Today I walked almost 10 miles around town and visited the Metropolitan Museum, will blog about that later.

The key point here is that I criticized the BNP in the UK as being national socialist in ideology and a potential stand in for Islamism. That is what triggered the assertion by whiskey that he is for 'national socialism' and he is for 'racism.' He was unambiguous about that and peterike who is I believe a Serbian chimed in to back that. I have been concerned that people here are getting played by Russian sympathizers, who even if they offer interesting information always should be considered as having their own agendas. So my basic charge about whiskey and peterike, no matter how much hand waving they or others try to lay on after about culture, remains. They need to be called out and hammered on that with a focus not an interactive discussion. It is possible that peterike simply did not understand what the initial dispute between whiskey and myself was really about and got caught up in a bandwagon effect.

Habu is simply a cyber bully, full stop. That is an actual legal dangerous condition, people have died because of it and the blog owners and administrators can be liable for any harm they cause either emotional damage or by stalking conduct. There are many resources and information available on the Internet on how to identify a bully and what to do with them. The rules on dealing with a cyber bully are;
1. identify,
2. do not engage, it is the response that they crave,
3. rally support and isolate them,
4. encourage authorities to remove them.

Four times he has attacked me and then followed up with apologies. Recently I myself tried to cover for him and drew a distinction between his efforts to claim special authority based on his claimed family or personal history beyond what is proper, and his actual erudition based on his education. I can no longer do so because he uses his learning and skills to enable the abuse and cover for advocacy for violence. His mood swings are remarkable and troubling. He has had a pattern of choosing a victim and pursuing them with escalating attacks and insults to bait them and drive them off the blog. Over last Summer into the Autumn he was doing so serially attacking one person every couple of weeks. Twice women communicated to me privately that they were being driven from the blog by his abusive bullying. Habu talks of guns to instill fear in people, that is why I keep my name off my blog. So let me be very clear here, if Habu is talking about how he is not afraid of combat and knows how to track and kill a man in order to make me fear him then I need and I think that the people in Pajamas Media need to know that. Threats and stalking are not to be taken lightly. If his insults and disparagement of my manhood as less of a combat leader than he is are meant to make me seek a personal confrontation with him then I will note that anyone as erratic as he has been is not someone I want to follow, lead or have on my flank. If he is attempting to instill fear in me, or threatening to stalk me, or daring me to meet him in person, I will just note that in America we hire people to deal with threats like that. It is part of being civilized. Let me be clear that in his policy proposals, as opposed to his personal attacks, he is not exploring the possibility of trends reaching conclusions and discussing how other similar situations have been resolved. He is calling for the preemptive extermination of millions indeed hundreds of millions of human beings both overseas and of US citizens. He is not calling for us to defend the principles of the Declaration and the Constitution but is instead calling for them to be rejected and replaced with a reign of terror to be guided by those he approves of. BTW, just to as is my nature go the extra bit to be fair neither he not whiskey are stupid, his advice to Stephanie on what to read is good. Habu is not I think a racist but he is a bully and obsessed with violence and his own sense of authority.

Whiskey has his monomania to motivate him, so he has perceptive energy. That does not change that he is a bigot and damages the credibility of the venue and all who participate in it. For example Leo Linbeck III has poured time and money into a charter school educational program that serves almost exclusively black students in NYC. Any linkage to the likes of whiskey could imperil that worthy effort. The reason I came back to post this is that I have three supportive comments on my blog plus three other aupportive communications by Facebook and email.

What made this so galling is that anyone who actually read my posts knows damn well that I am no leftist and no softy about the need to actually engage these issues and do what really needs to be done to win the Long War. The fear and panic and cries that anything short of gotterdammerung or selling ourselves out to the likes of the BNP are useless is what discredits us and enables the real enemies of Western Civilization to advance. At the risk of repeating, what triggered the attack on me was my mild defense of the UKIP position, although they are soft on the War and focused on a domestic agenda, as opposed to the BNP. They did not respond with an argument for the BNP position versus the UKIP or any other but rather gave a full throated endorsement of 'national socialism' and 'racism.' Go back and read it.

If efforts to explore policy options, other than rope+lamp post+global thermonuclear war, result in charges of cowardice and calls to get out of the blog then this blog will die or simply become a junior version of Free Republic. That niche is already filled and frankly this place can be better than that. The fact is that over the last few months many of the best commentators have faded away. wretchard has on several occasions shared with me his frustration at the repeated calls for violence and closed threads or tried to politely warn people. No one especially me wants a LGF style regime in here. That does not change that there must be some standards and when people damage the venue and make it risky to be associated with clearly and explicitly racist comments they must be stopped. It is also important that real and repeated bullying is something that must be stopped. Ideally everyone in here would have read what triggered my reaction but they did not and the blog owner has allowed this to run on without comment. He can either do something or ignore it or attack me. I still hope he does right and wants support to do so.

4 comments:

John Byrnes said...

“Bullying” is a topic that is on the hearts and minds of individuals in position of responsibility whether in the workplace or our schools. With the most recent incident where a young 15 year old girl hangs herself due to what is described as “relentless bullying” and by prosecutors as statutory rape has gone well beyond the parameters of “bullying.”

It is only when we realize that this bullying behavior is “intent-driven aggressive behavior;” that there is a Continuum of Aggression, of which Bullying is an element, that we can actually prevent bullying. Through this continuum we can learn the “precursors” to bullying, and through this understand and application we can actually prevent and stop this culture of bullying. Until we learn the Continuum of Aggression we are relegated to reacting to bullying, not preventing it.

I am writing the definitive book on “preventing bullying,” and I need your help. I will illustrate how “bullying” is an element on the Continuum of Aggression and through this continuum we can foresee the precursors of bullying and therefore can prevent bullying and stop bullying behavior. However, I need as many examples of bullying as possible. I would like to read about any accounts of bullying you have experienced or observed, whether in the workplace or in education. I would particularly like to understand how you responded to this bullying and how and why it worked or didn’t work? Please go the my blog and share your account. In return, I would share excepts of the unique approach for your review and comment. My blog is located at http://blog.AggressionManagement.com

LifeoftheMind said...

Comment left at the Aggression Management blog.

Thank you for commenting on my blog. To review the background on why I 'called out' the Habu character in the Belmont Club you would have to search through the Belmont Club blog comments for nearly the last year. To do so would reveal that person's repeated pattern of choosing a victim for escalating personal abuse, usually following some perceived challenge to his claim of heroic credibility and expertise. Some other frequent commentators in the Club have been physicians and you may want to identify and communicate with them.

My concern was not that I felt personally shocked by his abuse. While I made a point of noting the potential for a physical threat in his conduct toward me I would claim a larger and less selfish motive. The bully had been attacking others and was driving them from the virtual community. As that is a place that I have spent time in and devoted my energy and creativity to I have some interest in preserving it if I can.

Regarding your larger project in determining clues to potentially dangerous conduct, have you studied the techniques for quantifying emotional clues that were pioneered by the Israelis and are now used by the US Transportation Security Administration in their Screening Passengers by Observational Technique (SPOT) program?

LifeoftheMind said...

Comment left at the Aggression Management blog.

Thank you for commenting on my blog. To review the background on why I 'called out' the Habu character in the Belmont Club you would have to search through the Belmont Club blog comments for nearly the last year. To do so would reveal that person's repeated pattern of choosing a victim for escalating personal abuse, usually following some perceived challenge to his claim of heroic credibility and expertise. Some other frequent commentators in the Club have been physicians and you may want to identify and communicate with them.

My concern was not that I felt personally shocked by his abuse. While I made a point of noting the potential for a physical threat in his conduct toward me I would claim a larger and less selfish motive. The bully had been attacking others and was driving them from the virtual community. As that is a place that I have spent time in and devoted my energy and creativity to I have some interest in preserving it if I can.

Regarding your larger project in determining clues to potentially dangerous conduct, have you studied the techniques for quantifying emotional clues that were pioneered by the Israelis and are now used by the US Transportation Security Administration in their Screening Passengers by Observational Technique (SPOT) program?

John Byrnes said...

“Bullying” is a topic that is on the hearts and minds of individuals in position of responsibility whether in the workplace or our schools. With the most recent incident where a young 15 year old girl hangs herself due to what is described as “relentless bullying” and by prosecutors as statutory rape has gone well beyond the parameters of “bullying.”

It is only when we realize that this bullying behavior is “intent-driven aggressive behavior;” that there is a Continuum of Aggression, of which Bullying is an element, that we can actually prevent bullying. Through this continuum we can learn the “precursors” to bullying, and through this understand and application we can actually prevent and stop this culture of bullying. Until we learn the Continuum of Aggression we are relegated to reacting to bullying, not preventing it.

I am writing the definitive book on “preventing bullying,” and I need your help. I will illustrate how “bullying” is an element on the Continuum of Aggression and through this continuum we can foresee the precursors of bullying and therefore can prevent bullying and stop bullying behavior. However, I need as many examples of bullying as possible. I would like to read about any accounts of bullying you have experienced or observed, whether in the workplace or in education. I would particularly like to understand how you responded to this bullying and how and why it worked or didn’t work? Please go the my blog and share your account. In return, I would share excepts of the unique approach for your review and comment. My blog is located at http://blog.AggressionManagement.com