Comment on the Belmont Club: "Out of the Box"

The two broadly based parties excluded from the debate in the UK were the BNP and the UKIP. From this side of the Atlantic the BNP look like racists who have absorbed all the ideological prejudices of Socialism and conflated them with a narrow tribal vision of Nationalism. Have seen where that leads to my enthusiasm for their project is lacking. Practically as a defense against the subversion of England or any corner of Western culture it strikes me as a dead end. The BNP vision includes an acceptance of a powerful authoritarian government that divides all of humanity into the favored insiders and the despised outsiders. It is my expectation that they could flip on a dime and become a front for the Islamization of Britain.

The UKIP may seem more congenial to American eyes but that may be its weakness. Is it like the Tea Parties subject to attack as some alien Yank intrusion? The tragedy is that the Party whose intellectual origins were closest to the small government and free market vision that inspired the success of both the United States and Britain in the 18th to 19th centuries is the heir of the old Liberals, the Liberal Democrats. Unfortunately they are now the most Statist party advocating for the maximum transfer of sovereignty to the EU.

If I recall TV shows like Idol are copies of British originals.

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wretchard,
The only way out of the thicket is for the elites to produce results

Results are to hard to get but they can produce voters. The answer for the elites becomes electorate substitution by importation. This does not solve the problem in the sense of allowing more results to be produced, unless the imported labor/voter pool results in a marginal increase in productivity. During the agricultural and industrial eras the importation of unskilled labor did produce results. Now the importation of unskilled labor does not result in a net increase in national wealth. If we were importing large numbers of skilled professionals or if we had a functioning educational system that could transform costly low skill imported labor, or at least their citizen children, into highly productive labor that would strengthen the nation then it could work to try and expand the electorate. What the current immigration system does do though is empower the importing elites to more efficiently extract the wealth that exists. Any proposed amnesty plan would accelerate that effect. This only postpones the eventual collapse of the wealth producing system but that is of little concern to those planning on immigration 'reform.'

My argument is not one for simply restricting immigration but is one for overhauling the education system and restoring on immigration system that first evaluates all applicants based on what is in the best interests of the United States.